Jalal Attacks Craig
"I wrote to him that the human waste that came out of Muhammad ...is cleaner than him and the earth fill of people like him"
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Several years ago, Jalal claimed that a debate with him would do more to authenticate Prophet of Doom than the 1,000 pages of evidence from the Islamic scriptures contained in it. To get a flavor of this man's nature, and to see what Islam has done to him, the entire exchange between Jalal and Craig can be read here What Jalal and others like him fail to understand, is that Craig's scholarship, while comprehensive and accurate, is irrelevant. Prophet of Doom - Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words isn't about Craig; it's about Muhammad. Craig didn't invent the evidence. He's just reporting it. While we receive many criticisms about Prophet of Doom, few attempt to discredit anything specific that Craig has written or revealed. The small number who do are easily dismissed by using tools like the Islamic Quotes section of Prophet of Doom to prove their inaccuracy and/or dishonesty by reading straight from Islamic scriptures. Rather than present credible alternate viewpoints to the evidence presented in Prophet of Doom, Muslim apologists are consistently only able to reinforce the evidence that Islam inpires hate, ignorance, and deceit.The repeated Muslim challenges have simply increased the acceptance of Prophet of Doom as being the best documented, most accurate, and most comprehensive, contextual and chronological presentation of Allah's words and Muhammad's deeds as they were recorded by the first Muslim scribes ever written. And that, friends, is why Muslims are compelled to slander its author. They have even tried to terrorize him into capitulation through countless death threats, again confirming our conclusions that good Muslims are directed to use terror and murder to promote Islam. The POD site remains up, however, boldly proclaiming the truth for the millions who visit it each year. Jalal is also a good Muslim, but he uses the other pillar of Islam as his weapon - deceit. Craig agreed to debate him online, yet Jalal ignored the offer. After Jalal's challenge was accepted, he tried to redefine the parameters in the hopes of never having to back up his taunts and to fool Craig into agreeing on a new arrangement where his use of distraction and lies can be used, such as in a live debate. The reason Craig wanted a written online debate was because, in this format, it would be impossible to deny or fabricate the evidence without getting caught. Online, all points would be well documented, and audiences would be given the time to verify their validity and therefore be informed enough to differentiate opinions from facts - lies from truth. His bluff having been called, POD received the following email from Jalal (below). Jalal believed that he had just exposed Craig to be a fraud. However, had he bothered to read the material at www.ProphetofDoom.net, he would have discovered that we already knew Muslims would attack the messenger rather than the message. This is why we provide a link to the most comprehensive review of the Value America story: http://InTheCompanyOfGoodAndEvil.com. In the Company of Good and Evil was written by the five founders of Value America. It is a compelling and worthy read for anyone involved in any business or group activity. We heartily recommend it, which is why we offer the entire book for free. We do not, however, recommend the story written by a political consult who wasn't associated with any of the company's operations or development during its formative years - a fellow who floundered during his brief stint in public relations at the tail end of the Value America saga. As for Jalal's point about the Presbyterian Church, it remains a mystery to us, as do many of his other "points." Craig has not had any association with the Presbyterian Church for over 30 years. In fact, Craig has no religious nor political affiliations of any kind. He is anti-religious and anti-political. Craig's current project, Yada Yahweh (free at: http://YadaYahweh.com), comprises a set of volumes that reveal many important nuances of the Scriptures that have been lost over time due to errant translation and/or corruption. In addition to revealing what Scripture has to say about the source, nature, and fate of Islam, these volumes expose the pagan roots of the modern church. Of course, this is something Jalal would have known - had he read rather than ranted
Instead of hiding from disparaging remarks and unjustified slander, we post most of what Muslims have to say in the Feedback section of www.ProphetofDoom.net for all to witness. If you read their criticisms and threats, you will see a monotonous pattern in which all of their comments fall. Aside from the obligatory heads-up regarding our pending doom, whether it be at their hands or in Allah's personal torture chamber, they then deploy one or more of the following tactics: - "You took quotes out of context."
- "Your sources / translations are unreliable."
- "What about Christianity?"
- "Who are you to talk about Islam?"
Even in the very, very rare occasions where a Muslim attempts to present contrary evidence, it's usually in the form of a straw-man argument. In other words, their depiction of Muhammad and the first Muslims is unfounded and contrary to the mountains of evidence available to us - all of which comes from Islam's earliest and most revered sources. Since Muslims cannot refute the evidence, they throw up noise to confuse the issue and threats to cower opponents. It's what Muhammad did. The Qur'an is an incoherent and jumbled rant. Not being able to sell Islam based on its merits, Muhammad resorted to childish taunts - Infidels became "apes and swine," for example, worthy of being killed so that they could be roasted in Allah's hellfire. So when we witness Muslim apologists acting this way today, we know that they are following their prophet's example. For those more interested in the evidence than the muck, we've culled Jalal's arguments from his slander so you won't have to wade through his childish denigration of Craig's character. However, for those who want to experience the full effect, we've provided Jalal's original statements at the end of this document. We'll still be accused of taking his comments out of context, however. Jalal begins: "Allah is the name of the Creator even in Arabic bibles," and "Arabic bibles are much older than English bibles." He tells those who believe him that: "in the original-yet still corrupted-bibles, and there are hundreds of them, nowhere would one find the word, "god", nor did Jesus ever used it since he never spoke American English or French nor recited any hallelujahs." The first point is true. Deceitful men have copyedited God and have replaced Yahweh's name with Allah's name in Arabic translations of Scripture. It is the same kind of deviousness that caused men to replace Yahweh's name in English translations with "Lord" all 7,000 times it is found in the Old Covenant. So we must recognize that all translations are the work of men, not God, and thus Jalal's first argument is invalidated. That said, the point Jalal was making is also rendered moot because his next four points are all completely untrue. The first English translation was composed by John Wycliffe in 1384. The first even partial Arabic translation of Scripture wasn't composed until the late 17th century. But truth doesn't serve Islam's interests so Muslims either ignore it or change it. In the hundreds of Old Covenant Scriptural texts dating from the 3rd century BCE, you will find the Hebrew word for God, 'el and 'elohiym, (not allah or ilah, the Arabic name and word for god respectively) written thousands of times. That means that Jalal was not telling the truth when he claimed that "nowhere would you find the word 'god.'" But liars lie, it's what liars do. In the 69 oldest Renewed Covenant manuscripts, you will find that a placeholder is used consistently for the seven most important names, titles, and words ascribed to Yahweh and Yahshua. These include: Yahshua, Messiah, God, Master, Spirit, Father, and Son. The Greek word for God, used throughout the Renewed Covenant text is Theos, Theou, Theo, and Theon. It is rendered with a horizontal line over the capitalized letters ΘΣ, ΘΥ, ΘΩ, and ΘΝ, respectively. Therefore, the opposite of what Jalal has claimed is true. If all Jalal was saying was that the English word "god" was not written in the original Hebrew and Greek texts, he and his intended audience are even dumber than we give them credit for being. In actuality, Jalal's bogus claims are irrelevant because the original text of the Old Covenant was written in paleo- and Babylonian-Hebrew, not Arabic. With the Dead Sea Scrolls we have hundreds of manuscripts of the original text, in the original language, scribed 800 years before written Arabic even existed. On these 2,200 year old scrolls you will find "Allah" written 0 times and "Yahweh" written 7,000 times. This fact alone provides us with absolute proof that Islam is a fraud because Allah claims repeatedly in the Qur'an to be the god of the Torah. Allah is not Yahweh. Jalal has ensnared himself in his own trap of lies, once again. The Renewed Covenant was written in Koine Greek, not Arabic. Archeologists have found 69 manuscripts covering every book of the Renewed Covenant dating to the first through third century - 400 to 600 years before written Arabic and Islam were invented. They confirm that Yahshua, the Savior's actual name, recited many Halal-u-Yah's because He was constantly quoted quoting Old Covenant Scripture with this compound Hebrew word in the text. Halaluyah means: "radiate Yah's light." Further, the Greek text makes it clear that Yahshua (meaning Yah-Saves) spoke Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, and Latin. Jalal has shot himself in the mouth, yet again. Jalal claims: "He refuses to appear in a live debate. Instead, he wants to debate over the internet." The first point isn't true, but the second is accurate. We have done both and have explained why both were necessary. Jalal says: "I doubt that he even knows the difference between a Sunni and a Sufi." While Craig knows the difference, it is irrelevant. What's interesting, however, is that while most Muslims are Sunni, all of the earliest Islamic sources, including the Qur'an, are Shiite. And for those who are curious, less than 1% of Muslims are Sufi because the position is irrational. Either a Muslim is a Salafi fundamentalist, or they are kidding themselves. Jalal claims: "He is nowhere near the level of famous Orientalists who spent years of research on Islam; many of them spoke Arabic fluently." While we don't understand the connection, he adds: "free America' Muslims have no access to the media to at least offer their opinion." Again, Craig is irrelevant. The book is not about him. All Craig did was report what the oldest Islamic sources reveal. He simply arranged the Qur'an chronologically and set it into the context of Muhammad's life as it was depicted in Ishaq's Biography, Tabari's History, and Bukhari's and Muslim's topical Hadith collections. As for the last point, the American press is so sympathetic to Muslims it could be argued that the media is aiding and abetting America's demise. That leads Jalal to add this straw man: "This pathetic loser thinks that the Christians in the US will actually vote a Presbyterian fanatic into office of the President." Craig never made such a claim. Further, what does this have to do with Muhammad, Allah, and Islam? The following is also untrue, but even if it were true, Jalal would have no way of knowing this: "No Muslim has renounced Islam because of the Craig or his pathetic book." Craig's favorite Muslim response occurred shortly after the publication of Prophet of Doom. He had just finished debating an Islamic imam in Florida on an Orlando Clear Channel station. The day after the debate, a woman called the host and said in her heavy Arabic accent: "I hated Craig Winn for saying those awful things about Muhammad being a terrorist and a sexual pervert so I decided to check out the books he quoted from to prove him wrong. I did, but he wasn't wrong. I was. What he read to us was true. I have rejected Islam and I want to thank you Shannon [the host's name] for allowing him to be on your show." Muslims, unable to refute what Prophet of Doom reveals, almost always tell Craig that their god will get him in the end: "Hell surely exists. And the first question Craig will be asked about in the grave is Allah, then Muhammad then Islam. And the meeting will indeed be with Allah and then those who have committed injustice will come to know what type of destination awaits them." The subject of heaven and hell is one of Craig's favorites for many reasons. First, Allah's depiction of hell, and is personal role in it, as depicted in the Qur'an, prove that Allah is Satan. Second, according to Yahweh's Scriptures, there are three post life destinations, not two. The vast majority of souls will not go to a place of eternal life or eternal torment, but will simply cease to exist. Third, most Christians hold errant views of what both heaven and hell are like. More importantly, they do not actually understand the way to Yahweh or the singular act that eternally separates people from Him. If these subjects interest you, click out of this cesspool and see what God actually has to say: www.YadaYahweh.com. Returning to the rubbish, we find: "Winn, a businessman who claims to have gotten "intelligence briefings" from Mossaad and the FBI as part of this studies of Islam. I guess going to college and focusing on scholarly resources would have been too obvious." This is a wonderful example as to how big lies can be mixed with a tiny morsel of truth to conjure up a completely errant, but believable, criticism. And, once again, the strategy is to attack the messenger, not the message. Craig was a businessman and he did receive briefings for the Mossad, but not from the FBI. These briefings, however, had nothing to do with the study of Islam. For that, Craig invested 12,000 hours studying the five oldest and most revered Islamic texts: Muhammad's Qur'an, Ishaq's Sira, Tabari's Ta'rikh, Bukhari's and Muslim's Hadith. Craig invested a similar number of hours studying the texts of the books Muhammad plagiarized, the Bible and the Talmud. There are no more "scholarly resources" to focus on than these. And as for "going to college," Craig did that as well, graduating magna cum laude from the University of Southern California. Jalal makes his next point by quoting an "opinion letter" submitted to the "press-citizen.com" The editorialist filed his or her report without bothering to look up or check out the sources: "Taking quotations out of content from the Koran and other Middle Eastern texts, Winn concluded of Islam, "This is not a peaceful religion. It's a religion of violence.'" Since it is senseless to say that someone "took quotations out of content" let's assume that Jalal and his cooperative opinion writer meant out of "context." Not only is that the most common deception attributed to Prophet of Doom, the opposite is actually true. As a simple statement of fact: Prophet of Doom - Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words is the most contextual and chronological depiction of the Qur'an ever written. Craig took the time to arrange the Qur'an in the order it was revealed, and then used Islam's lone early chronological and contextual sources to set Allah's words into the context of Muhammad's life and times. Craig painstakingly labels the source of every verse quoted, utilized 12 Qur'an translations to ensure he understood the full intent and nuance of every passage he quoted, provides the 5 primary translations online at The Qur'ans, offers a rendering of his writings that corresponds to the exact haphazard order of the Qur'an in the Prophet of Doom Qur'an, and even arranged Islamic scripture by topic in the Islamic Quotes section of the book. The Qur'an's message has never been put into context or as clearly communicated as it is in Prophet of Doom. As for the "other Middle Eastern texts," they are Ishaq's Sira, or biography, called Sirat Rasul Allah. It provides the sole account of Muhammad's life and the formation of Islam written within 200 years of the prophet's death. While the character, message, and deeds portrayed within its pages are the antithesis of Christ's and his disciples, the Sira's chronological presentation is similar in style to the Christian Gospels. The Ta'rikh is the oldest, most trusted, and comprehensive history of Islam's formation and Muhammad's example, called Sunnah. It was written by Tabari. His History of al-Tabari is formatted like the Bible. It begins with Islamic creation and ends with the acts of Muhammad's Companions. The History of al-Tabari is a compilation of Hadith quotes and Qur'an passages. As such, it provides the best skeleton upon which to flesh out the character of Muhammad and the nature of fundamental Islam. A Hadith is an oral report from Muhammad or his Companions. Muslims believe that Hadith were inspired by Allah, making them scripture. The most revered Collection was compiled in a topical arrangement by Bukhari. The second most trusted source was compiled by Muslim. Allah's Book, the Qur'an, lacks context and chronology, so to understand it, readers are dependent upon the Sira, Ta'rikh, and Hadith. Further if these "other Middle Eastern texts," are inaccurate with regard to their depiction of Muhammad and the formation of Islam, nothing the religion has to say can be trusted because there are no older or better sources than these. They tell us all we know about Muhammad and his god Allah. The reason Craig took the time to arrange the Qur'an in the order it was allegedly revealed is because Allah's words are a jumbled mess, completely devoid of context or chronology - even of rational transitions between subjects. It is if passages were ripped apart, picked up by a whirling dervish and then thrown back together random fashion. The book does not read from start to finish. The first surah was never actually revealed and the second surah was the 90th handed down. The first surah received by Muhammad can be found in the first half of the 96th chapter while the last received is fifth in the Qur'an. The reason Prophet of Doom is 1,000 pages long is because that is what was required to bring Islam's five earliest sources together comprehensively, chronologically, and contextually. But when that is done, one thing becomes perfectly clear, as ubiquitous it is undeniable: "Winn [as would any informed and rational person] concluded of Islam, "This is not a peaceful religion. It's a religion of violence.'" Rather than repeat chapters 13 ("Pedophile Pirate") through 24 ("Profitable Prophet Plan") here, we invite you to read Allah's terrorist manifesto in Muhammad's own words. If you are short on time, check out Winn's: "taking quotations out of content from the Koran and other Middle Eastern texts" in any one of the following chapters (any one of these is more than sufficient to prove the point): "War Made a Profit (and a Prophet)," "Mein Kampf," "Good Muslims Kill," "Lustful Libertine," "Islam's Holocaust," "The Tormented Terrorist," "Blood & Booty," "Legacy of Terror," or "Jihad." In doing so you will learn that by bringing this argument up, Jalal remains his own worst enemy - as does the American media. Jalal, the bumbling enemy of Islam, used this quote to mislead his audience: "While Winn's analysis may be useful in understanding the mind of an al-Qaeda terrorist, he unfortunately extended an extreme interpretation of Islam to all 1 billion people of that faith. 'All good Muslims are terrorists,' he told the audience." The first claim is absolutely true. The best way to understand why al-Qaeda terrorists maim and murder is to read "Winn's analysis." That is why he wrote Tea With Terrorists and Prophet of Doom. A nation cannot effectively fight an enemy until it first understands who they are and what motivates them. Muslim terrorists are salaf fundamentalists. They explicitly follow Allah's orders and Muhammad's example. They are by definition: "good Muslims." And since Muhammad was a terrorist, "all good Muslims are terrorists." While it is possible to be a bad Muslim and be a good person, it is impossible to follow Allah's orders and Muhammad's example and not murder, kidnap, enslave, rape, terrorize, and plunder. By lying to everyone who hears him speak, Jalal is being a good Muslim because Allah and Muhammad told Muslims to lie to make infidels easier prey. Craig doesn't "interpret" Islam. That is the second most common deception postured on behalf of Islamic apologists. He simply conveys what the Islamic sources reveal. The presentation of Islam in Prophet of Doom is "extreme" because the Qur'an, Sira, Ta'rikh, and Hadith are hideously immoral and grotesquely violent. And it's not that some parts are violent or that some sections are immoral. The overwhelming preponderance of the material presented in the earliest Islamic sources is revolting - it's about terrorizing, murdering, enslaving, robbing, and raping civilians. Friends, until you take the time to read the chapters of Prophet of Doom which cover what the earliest sources (the Qur'an, Sira, Ta'rikh, and Hadith) have to say about the beginning of the Islamic Era (pages 261 "Delusions of Grandeur" to 671, "Prophet of Doom,"), you can't even imagine how black and white this issue really is. It would be fair to say that from the beginning of the Islamic Era to the Muhammad's death, over 90% of the material contained in the earliest sources (the Qur'an, Sira, Ta'rikh, and Hadith) deals with: terrorist raids, mass murder, the enslavement of children, the rape of women captives, womanizing, pedophilia, incest, theft, kidnapping for ransom, bribery, deception, pain, and punishment. Craig doesn't claim the impossible. He doesn't pretend to know how individual Muslims interpret Islam. Anyone who says they know is deceiving themselves and those who listen to them. All Craig knows is how Muhammad and his god Allah interpreted Islam. He knows what they had to say and what they did. And he knows that apart from time and place, there is no difference between Allah and Muhammad and the words and deeds of Osama bin Laden. The fact is, if Muhammad and Allah got Islam wrong, no one has it right. And if Muhammad and Allah got Islam right, the religion of submission is wrong. Jalal's next line comes from the same letter that was posted by the press-citizen. It is effective when thrown about in ignorant circles: "Following his line of thought, we also might conclude that Biblical quotations which members of the Irish Republican Army claim justify their cause, proves that all Christianity is a violent religion and that all good Christians are terrorists." It isn't the same line of thought, but to know that you have to think. Yahshua wasn't a terrorist. Muhammad was. Unlike Islamic terrorists who all quote vociferously from the Qur'an, IRA terrorists seldom quote from the Bible. And they never say that they are "following Christ's example." Most IRA terrorists are more Marxists than they are Catholics. A Muslim terrorist, however, knows that the Qur'an's message is as follows: the swiftest and most assured way to Allah's virgins in paradise is to die a jihad martyr killing infidels in Allah's Cause. They all claim to be following Muhammad's example, and they are. Abraham, Ya'aqob, Moses, David, Isaiah, Daniel, Ezekiel and Yahshua were not terrorists. Muhammad was. It just doesn't get any simpler than that. The IRA terrorists know that there is no support for what they do in Yahweh's Word. There is no call to arms whatsoever in the Renewed Covenant, and what little there is in the Old Covenant is restricted to a handful of towns in Judea immediately following the Exodus. All of the Qur'an's orders to fight and kill non-Muslims are for all people, for the whole earth, and for all time. Yahweh's limits were for five specific towns in a tiny sliver of land during a forty year period 3,500 years ago. And Yahweh's reasons, unlike Allah's, were rational and compassionate. The least compassionate thing one can do is to tolerate a deceptive, destructive, and deadly dogma in one's midst. By using this as an example, Jalal has once again revealed Islam's vulnerability. Fact and reason destroy his religion. But he has also revealed America's vulnerability: too many Americans find it comforting to deceive on behalf of their moral code: political correctness. Jalal ends by referring to the opinion letter of the lost soul who obviously knows nothing about the Islamic or Christian Scriptures: "Winn stated that he doesn't hate Muslims, but he dislikes Islam. That's exactly like someone saying he doesn't hate Christians but dislikes Christianity. It's lunacy." Actually, nothing could be more compassionate or rational. Craig hates the religions of Islam and Christianity because they are both deceitful, destructive, and deadly. The souls of billions of people have been separated from Yahweh as a result of these human schemes. Collectively, they have killed almost as many people as the religion of man, Socialist Secular Humanism. Craig cares enough for Christians and Muslims to expose and condemn the religions that have led them astray, that have impoverished them. His compassion for Muslims and Christians is why he was willing to risk his life and subject himself to slander to tell them the truth. www.ProphetOfDoom.net is the last best hope Muslims have of fleeing the religion that has doomed them and their ancestors. Yada Yahweh (www.YadaYahweh.com) is the last best hope Christians have of fleeing the religion that has led them and those they love away from God.
| From: | Jmabualrub@aol.com | | Date: | Fri, 28 May 2004 16:27:31 EDT | | Subject: | Craig Winn (Loose), this is your copy |
As-salamu alaikum warahmatullah Together, we went through the experience we had with the Rosario evangelist who ended up reneging on his $5000 reward for anyone who can prove that the Quran is not responsible for Saddam Husain. Soon after, the Rosario withdrew from the debate that he had agreed to hold with me. Now, another fanatical Christian! This one is funnier, though. He has become a scholar in Islam literally overnight, and is challenging Muslims to renounce Islam after reading his book. Yes, if you might ask, I did challenge him to a debate and told him that I am willing to not read his writings of a thousand pages about Islam and its Prophet, salla allahu `alaihi wa-sallam, so that he can demolish me with surprise. Unlike Rosario this new fanatic did not agree to a debate. Instead, he went directly to verbal abuse of Allah, Islam and its Prophet, salla allahu `alaihi wa-sallam. The funny thing is that this guy keeps accusing Muslims that they do not read about their own religion, otherwise if they read about Islam, as he did for a whole four months (or is it 10,000 hours [416 days or 13 months], or is it two years?; we are just awaiting the revelation), they will abandon Islam, so he said. He even asked me to abandon Islam because he wrote his book, The Prophet of Doom. What a pathetic loser! I guess that since he lost his Value America, which cheated its customers and cost many their life-savings, and with it lost the hope of becoming President of the United States, as well as, the ongoing debate within his church on if homosexuality is a sin or a gift from god, or if Hell exists and about its nature if it exists, he thought of another scam to cheat America"s Christians out of their money. Hence, The Prophet of Doom. What he says about Islam on his site, such as, "According to the Hadith and the Qur"an, Muhammad and his henchmen plundered their way to power and prosperity. And by putting the Qur"an in chronological order and correlating it with the context of Muhammad"s life as it was reported in the Sira, Sunnah and Hadith, we also find that Allah mirrored his prophet"s character"?, is actually less evil than what he said through his filthy emails to me about our beloved Prophet, salla allahu `alaihi wa-sallam. In the last email to him, I wrote to him that the human waste that came out of Muhammad, salla allahu `alaihi wa-sallam, is cleaner than him and the earth fill of people like him. This latest fanatic is Craig Winn (actually, Loooose), a Presbyterian-evangelical fanatic, who wrote a book about Islam and its Prophet he titled, The Prophet of Doom. He boasts like this on his web-site, " Recognizing that most people don"t have the will, time, or means to invest 10,000 hours into the study of Islam, I have done the heavy lifting for you. I have distilled the salient parts of the five earliest and most holy Islamic books into one: the Qur"an, and the inspired Sunnah collections of Ibn Ishaq"s Sira, al-Tabari"s History, and Bukhari"s and Muslim"s Hadith. And rather than taking them out of context, they have been rearranged chronologically. A running commentary is provided so as to hold them accountable. You will see Muhammad, Allah, and Islam as they really are."? This filthy, cursed disbeliever abuses Allah in this manner (Allah is the name of the Creator even in Arabic bibles, which are much older than English bibles; so he abused the Creator of all that exists; in the original -yet still corrupted- bibles, and there are hundreds of them, nowhere would one find the word, "god", nor did Jesus ever used it since he never spoke American English or French nor recited any hallelujahs). The Craig frequently claims that Muslims do not read. Yet, like the Rosario before him, when he senses that any challenger to a debate is educated in Islam, he refuses to appear in a live debate. Instead, he wants to debate over the internet. I know that he is a coward and I know that even though I am a minor student of knowledge, by the will of Allah I shall demolish him and his book with proof and evidence. This is because Allah always delivers, Craig, always. Thus"¦. 1.At the risk of boring myself to death, i.e., way above and beyond sleep, I will go through his book and see what he has collected there that Muslims did not know about and have not read before. I will also see how he chronologically rearranged the Quran and Hadeeth. This alone should be a killer. I read on Craig"s web-site that a Muslim asked him about what kind of dope Craig is taking. I say that we should consult Rush Limbach on what type of dope Craig should be taking. He might then start to make sense similar to the sense that Rush makes, which is absolutely none. 2.Inshaallah in a series of articles I will refute the Craig and expose him for the liar and filthy abuser of Allah and Muhammad, salla allahu `alaihi wa-sallam, he is. If you ask me why I should waste my time on this filthy fanatic, then I must say the following. Indeed, so many Muslims do not read in the present time, a statement similar to that which the Craig keeps repeating. The fact is that no one has stood up to this fanatic effectively so far exactly because many of them do not read. However, the Craig fellow thinks that because Muslims do not read, they remain Muslim. The fact is that if Muslims read more about their religion then their faith in Islam will greatly increase and they will be able to refute this latest satanic-fanatic with ease. For instance, Craig debated a Sufi Shaikh from Orlando, who did not fair well against him as I was told. This is what Sufism does to its people, and this is evidence that the Craig is not looking for serious contenders. I doubt that he even knows the difference between a Sunni and a Sufi. Among the dogmas of the Sufis is their insistence that their followers do not read the Quran and Sunnah, so that they wholeheartedly dedicate their loyalty to the Shaikh. Thus, the Sufi Shaikh could not effectively challenge the Craig, because he does not have much information about Islam. He is busy raising flags and banners all around his Masjid declaring support for "our troops", meaning, in Iraq, meaning the same troops that continued what Saddam has done for three decades: torturing, pillaging, shelling, raping, humiliating and killing Muslims. The whole world saw the pictures; need I say more? 3.Many of you know that I have stated that in June inshaallah I will start working on my 33-booklet project. I would like to ask for your support that I dedicate some time to this fanatic. The media: newspapers, TV shows, CBN (of BAT Robertson, who lives in extreme luxury because he thinks that there is no food or wine in heaven; the pious Christian preacher who said he impregnated his wife before he married her), magazines, radio stations, such as local radio stations in Orlando, keep bringing this man to defame Muhammad, salla allahu `alaihi wa-sallam, describing him as an expert on Islam. Many people listen to him because he satisfies their rage against a religion neither he nor they understand or respect. Craig also sells books on Amazon and some of them are offered in an e-form over the internet for free. He has also debated Muslims and brought them his so-called proof that they could not refute or what they did not even know about. Indeed, he is nowhere near the level of famous Orientalists who spent years of research on Islam; many of them spoke Arabic fluently and wrote volumes of astounding detail on Islam. No matter his law standard of knowledge and sincerity, the Craig uses the media to defame your religion and is being described as an expert in Islam. And yes, in "free America " Muslims have no access to the media to at least offer their opinion. This is democracy in its nicest form, i.e., the Christian way. And they say the media here is secular. Tell it to the Muslims. Yet, sadly, no one has so far stood up to this failed businessman who is consumed by the delusion of becoming president, especially since his scheduled debate with Professor Saif has been called off, as much as I know; Craig tries his best to avoid meeting learned Muslims as I said before. My amazement at his ignorance is only surpassed by my astonishment at many Muslims who still do not have a clue as to what the Sunnah calls for. However, I must say, Craig has not yet met learned Muslims who have knowledge, and there are so many of them, who will reduce him to the humiliation destined for him if he dies on the utter disbelief he is in now. This pathetic loser thinks that the Christians in the US will actually vote a Presbyterian fanatic into office of the President. This is a minority denomination that has steadily been losing "paying customers" for decades. Yes, there are prominent Presbyterians in government, such as Condoleezza Rice, a Presbyterian laywoman. But it seems delusional that a Presbyterian would actually win the presidency. 4. Whenever you get my articles, post them to as many people as you can. I declare beforehand that I wholeheartedly believe in the Prophet of Islam and believe in his every action and statement included in the Sunnah. Not a million pages will shake this faith in Muhammad and not the earth fill of gold will make me hesitate in believing in him for one second; especially not by a book written by a Craik of Zubalah (in Arabic, Craik means, shovel, while Zubalah means, trash). Allah said in the Quran [ 9:32], { They (the disbelievers, the Jews and the Christians) want to extinguish Allâh"s Light (with which Muhammad, salla allahu `alaihi wa-sallam, has been sent ""Islamic Monotheism) with their mouths, but Allâh will not allow except that His Light should be perfected even though the Kâfirûn (disbelievers) hate (it).} Even in the midst of the current world-wide Christian crusade against Islam using Western military forces (because they just can"t make anyone believe in their trinity stuff without using force), Islam is still increasing in following and gaining the fruit of the West: their educated men and women, many of whom used to be priests, rabbis and evangelists. Then, once these new Muslims taste Tau`heed (Islamic Monotheism) they never go back to worshipping men, committing adultery, using drugs, drinking alcohol, or eating pork. It might be that many Christians and Jews became worse enemies of Islam on account of Craig"s book. No Muslim has renounced Islam because of the Craig or his pathetic book. I expect to spend a few months refuting this fanatic and inshaallah the booklet project will come after that. Those among you who have read my recent book of 700 pages (size 7" by 10") on Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab know the type of research that Allah allows me to do, only by His aid and support. Therefore, be patient until I finish this inshaallah. Finally, I will be sending the Craig my articles too, so that he can amend his book and try to attack Islam some other how. Yet, I am delivering this news to him in advance [8:36], {Verily, those who disbelieve spend their wealth to hinder (men) from the path of Allâh, and so will they continue to spend it; but in the end it will become an anguish for them. Then they will be overcome. And those who disbelieve will be gathered unto Hell.} I do not know if Craig really believes in Hell, as this is still debated within his church, but Hell surely exists. And the first question Craig will be asked about in the grave is Allah, then Muhammad then Islam. And the meeting will indeed be with Allah and then those who have committed injustice will come to know what type of destination awaits them. As-salamu alaikum warahmatullah Jalal Abualrub ***** Read These Funnies http://atheism.about.com/b/a/077315.htm April 10, 2004 Craig Winn: Muhammad was a Terrorist & Like Hitler Conservative evangelical Christians don't like Islam - and I mean, they really don't like Islam. The Christian Broadcasting Network has recently featured Craig Winn, a businessman who claims to have gotten "intelligence briefings" from Mossaad and the FBI as part of this studies of Islam. I guess going to college and focusing on scholarly resources would have been too obvious. Craig Winn was profiled on CBN (below): Craig says the biggest deception is that Islam is a peaceful religion. He came to that conclusion after studying the Quran and Muhammad's own words. "His own words condemn him," Craig says. "September 11 happened because Muhammad is a terrorist." ... Craig says today's terrorists are less violent than Muhammad and that the record shows "Muhammad's life mirrored Hitler's." He says Muhammad practiced genocide, was a polygamist, a rapist, a pedophile, a liar - and said it was good to lie. When the Jews disputed Muhammed's version of the Scriptures and condemned them, Muhammed declared war on them, decapitated them, and sold the women into slavery. His vision of heaven was one big orgy, with martyrs being rewarded with from two to seventy-two virgins depending on how they got there. Obviously Islam is much better than Judaism and Christianity. Neither of those religions have any history of its adherents or leaders doing anything violent like genocide, practicing polygamy, raping, lying, etc. Christianity and Judaism are, then, far better than Islam, right? Right? ****************** http://cbn.org/700club/profiles/craig_winn.asp GUEST Craig Winn The 700 Club September 16, 2002
Craig discusses the origins of Islam and his insights on why terrorists kill. CBN.com"" ON A MISSION When the second plane hit the WTC Tower , Craig knew he had to complete the mission that the Lord had given him - and that is to expose the true nature of Islam. His first impressions were that we would misunderstand the mission, and that we would handle it wrong in that America would not understand the forces behind the attack. When he began his mission to expose Islam, Craig thought that he would merely find a story of a 4,000-year-old family feud. What he learned instead was far more sinister. To get to the heart and root of the religion, Craig received intelligence briefings from Israel's IDF, Mossad, and Shin Bet, as well as America's military, CIA, and FBI. He went to the Middle East and met with Israeli and Palestinian ministers. Craig went into the Palestinian areas with three others who can corroborate everything he has written. His meeting with terrorists was set up with the help of a Mossad agent, who told him they could not in any way help him once he crossed over into the terrorists den - a sobering thought... Upon his return to the States, for four months he spent eight hours a day studying Islam, studying and learning the Quran. He looked Particularly at Muhammed and how he lived"¦Craig says the biggest deception is that Islam is a peaceful religion. He came to that conclusion after studying the Quran and Muhammad's own words. "His own words condemn him," Craig says. "September 11 happened because Muhammad is a terrorist." Craig says his studies reveal that Islam began in a bad way. Mecca was a small town among the Arabs who roamed the Saudi Peninsula . At the center of Mecca was the Ka'aba, one of the few remaining purely pagan shrines consisting of 360 idols, mostly stones. Pilgrims were charged fees to put their "god-rocks" inside. Muhammad's father was the Ka'aba's custodian. His name meant "slave to Allah." Allah had long been revered as a pagan god - in fact he was the moon god. The rock in which Allah lived had three daughters. The pebbles were named al-Uzza, al-Lat, and Manat. The Ayatollah Khomeini put out a death threat on Salmon Rushdie, the British novelist, for writing Satanic Verses, the Muslim account of these three goddesses. At one point Muhammad said it was okay to worship the three sisters until he later reversed himself and had these verses expunged from the Quran. Craig says so much of the Qu'ran is based on the written Hebrew Scriptural accounts that Muhammad changed to fit his purposes. What didn't fit he made up, with major Biblical characters becoming Muslims in the transliteration - Jesus, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Adam. Craig notes that the Hebrews have facts and an historical record on their side when they recount their history; Islam does not. Also noteworthy is that Muhammad performed no miracles in the process of building his religion - as did the Hebrews. Instead what Islam has is a legacy of bloodshed and terror...Women in Islam don't fare as well. From the Book of Belief, Ch. 17, vs 27: The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers are women who are disbelievers or ungrateful." "It was asked, Do they disbelieve in Allah or are they ungrateful? He replied: "They are ungrateful to their husbands for the favors and charitable deeds they have done for them." In essence, Muhammad said hell is filled with Muslim women who complain. **** Craig came to know the Lord at home after reading a copy of Hal Lindsey's book, The Late Great Planet Earth. He was convinced that no one could know the future so precisely. In high school at the time, Craig accepted the Lord and eventually became one of the youngest elders in the Presbyterian Church. From an early age he showed a giftedness in business, taking over his father's company. In 1986 he started Dynasty Classics, a lighting company, which had sales of $30 million in its first year, prior to starting Value America. ********************* http://news.com.com/2100-1017-244388.html?legacy=cnet Value America files for bankruptcy, lays off 185 Last modified: August 11, 2000, 4:30 PM PDT By Troy Wolverton Staff Writer, CNET News.com
updateStruggling online retailer Value America announced today that it has ceased its e-tail operations, filed for bankruptcy and laid off about 60 percent of its staff. @@@ The Charlottesville, Va.-based company said in a statement it has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy and will concentrate its efforts on developing a services business to help companies take and deliver online orders. As part of the effort, the company laid off 185 workers, all of whom were involved in its e-tailing operation"¦Backed by Federal Express founder Frederick Smith and Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, Value America had visions of becoming a key player in the e-commerce market. Those ambitions seemed attainable when the company saw its stock price triple on its first day of trading in April 1999. Amid the high hopes came excesses, among them a corporate jet requested by co-founders Craig Winn and Rex Scatena, the company's chairman and vice chairman, respectively. Winn, whose Dynasty Classics filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1993, also reportedly considered developing a corporate campus for Value America with a three-hole golf course and hiking trails. But since then, the company has been on a long and painful slide. Value America's stock price, for instance, has plummeted to the land of the penny stocks. ******************** http://www.twbookmark.com/books/52/0316089702/ dot.bomb: My Days and Nights at an Internet Goliath by J. David Kuo Official Selection of the Good Morning America "Read This" Book Club. "A wildly entertaining romp through the worst of the dot-com era....Kuo describes a passel of characters worthy of a Tom Wolfe novel....You're bound to love it." John A. Byrne, Business Week "¢ What was Value America? Value America was supposed to be an online catalog, selling all sorts of goods, from computer printers to barbeque grills. Value America would take the orders, but the manufacturers would have to ship the products. "¢ Who founded it? A guy named Craig Winn, a law school dropout from California who got his start selling fly swatters. Yep, this was the guy who was going to lead Value America from start up to internet goliath. Winn had more than a bit of confidence: Before Value America had made a dime in profits, Winn had already decided the company would be so huge that it would springboard him to his next job-President of the United States "¢ What were some of the problems? "¢ Winn was spending more time on his deluded plan to run for president than he was on the business; senior management relied not on budgeting and accounting but regular prayer sessions and bible study to tell them what to do; and employees like Kuo were constantly given jobs they were not at all qualified for. "¢ Numbers were fudged, money was burned through, and nobody seemed to know what they were doing. And then people discovered that Craig Winn had a history of this sort of thing, that his previous ventures hadn't exactly turned out to be Fortune 500 powerhouses. But by then, it was too late. ****************** http://www.insearchofstupidity.com/Book_Excerpts/Chapter_Eleven/chapter_eleven.html Value America was the brainchild of sell-your-mother sales wunderkind Craig Winn. Earlier in his career, Winn had built a successful home-lighting business, Dynasty Classics Corp., and then promptly turned around and drove it into the ground. Dynasty"s collapse revolved around Winn"s managerial incompetence combined with his continued insistence on butting heads with major distributors and resellers such as Wal-Mart. Like many other entrepreneurs before him, Winn resented the distribution system"s power to dictate prices, margins, and even packaging to vendors and suppliers. Value America, in addition to making Winn very rich, was also intended to be his revenge on the U.S. distribution system It would be the system, however, that would have the last laugh. ***************** http://www.press-citizen.com/opinion/pceditorials/staffedit070603.htm Sunday, July 6, 2003 Gallagher talk degenerates into bigotry Despite an opportunity to discuss issues, radio talk show host Mike Gallagher's "forum" about the proposed Muslim youth camp degenerated into bigotry and bashing. That's too bad. Gallagher - who broadcast live for three hours Wednesday from Iowa City's Sheraton Hotel - had an excellent opportunity to explore concerns about the camp. And for the first 45 minutes, he did just that as Johnson County officials discussed potential infrastructure and environmental strains posed by the camp. But that apparently grew tiring. In Gallagher's own words, "Let's not pussyfoot around ... We can talk about the environment impact all we want ... a Muslim youth camp could breed terrorists." Among those who spoke was a self-described Christian father of five. Though claiming to have nothing against Muslims, he noted it was the fastest-growing religion in the world. "I really don't want that near my family," he said. Then came several disturbing statements made by panelist Craig Winn, author of "Tea with Terrorists." Taking quotations out of content from the Koran and other Middle Eastern texts, Winn concluded of Islam, "This is not a peaceful religion. It's a religion of violence." While Winn's analysis may be useful in understanding the mind of an al-Qaeda terrorist, he unfortunately extended an extreme interpretation of Islam to all 1 billion people of that faith. "All good Muslims are terrorists," he told the audience. Following his line of thought, we also might conclude that Biblical quotations which members of the Irish Republican Army claim justify their cause, proves that all Christianity is a violent religion and that all good Christians are terrorists. Of course, that's nonsense, and so is Winn's reasoning. Indeed, Winn (the focus of the forum for nearly a third of the show) stated that he doesn't hate Muslims, but he dislikes Islam. That's exactly like someone saying he doesn't hate Christians but dislikes Christianity. It's lunacy. Gallagher, to his credit, tried to remain even keeled. But when engaged in discussion about the camp's Muslim nature, he revealed his true colors, stating: "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorists are Muslims." Perhaps the pressures of a live broadcast made him forget about Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber, both self-proclaimed (and notably wrong-headed) Christians. In another instance, Gallagher implied the FBI ought to perform checks on all Muslim youth who attend the camp. And there is duplicity in his argument that since Christians are not allowed to place the Ten Commandments and crosses on government-owned property then Muslims shouldn't be allowed to rent federal land. Gallagher, however, repeatedly stated that such Christian symbols should be allowed. So would not the placement of a Muslim camp on federal land be a victory over his perceived oppression of religion? No. Gallagher is satisfied to champion the rights of some but not of others. Repeating such bigotry and bashing is painful, especially when spoken in a community that prides itself as enlightened and tolerant. But part of addressing this problem must be frank recording of such ugliness. In short, if you missed Wednesday's broadcast, consider yourself fortunate. Send your comments to Opinion Page, P.O. Box 2480, Iowa City, Iowa 52244; fax to (319) 834-1083; e-mail to opinion@ press-citizen.com. ********* http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_pru6.htm#hist The "Presbyterian Church (USA) was founded by the merger of the United Presbyterian Church in the United States of America and the Presbyterian Church in the United States in 1983. This healed a major split in the denomination which occurred at the start of the Civil War. In 1861 the denomination had split on north/south lines over the issue of the preservation and abolition of slavery. In the mid twenties, the church weathered a second serious crisis: the Fundamentalist - Modernist controversy. The denomination was divided whether to retain to traditional, historical beliefs, or to absorb modern beliefs concerning biblical inerrancy, inspiration of the authors of the Bible, the search for the historical Jesus, the existence and nature of Hell, etc. A commission, organized in 1925, successfully avoided a denominational schism. Some liberal ideas were accepted by the denomination. In 1996, they reported 2.7 million members and 11,416 congregations, divided among 171 presbyteries. Like many other mainline Protestant denominations, the Presbyterian Church has been losing members for the past 40 years -- about 50,000 a year: ·Some conservative members believe that the loss is related to the church's continuing, two-decades long, discussion of equal rights for gays and lesbians, including both homosexual ordination, and recognition of holy unions for same-sex couples.
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From Jalal Abualrub to Craig Winn: This is initial my response to your book: In response to Craig Winn's, The Prophet of Doom:
Madinah Publishers and Distributors Announces the Release of the First Chapter of Jalal Abualrub's: The Prophet of Mercy
Here is the Link: (http://madinahstore.com/)
I challenge you, Winn, to refute my book scientifically without the usual abuse you fill your writings with
I can still take you in a debate anywhere, anytime and on any topic
Dear Jalal,
Having studied Islam's earliest and most important books—the Qur'an, Sira, Ta'rikh, and Hadith—I didn't find a "Prophet of Mercy." I found a pedophile, rapist, pirate, slave trader, mass murderer, and terrorist. So you either think these perverse behaviors are "merciful" or you are manufacturing your own prophet. Either way, dealing with your first chapter is a waste of my time.
As for "scientifically," I'm surprised a Muslim can spell it. There have been no Islamic scientific advances in the last 1000 years. And that's a result of Muhammad's and Allah's idiocy when it comes to the subject. As for winning a "debate on any subject," you only deceive yourself.
Craig
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